Here’s why I no longer use the Spider Audio device in Reason

Recently, when using a Spider Audio device in a Reason Combinator to split the signal, I found out that only the left channel was effected. WTF! Some users downloaded my example file and confirmed the bug. Propellerhead is aware of it (for a long time since several users have reported it) but has not yet solved it.

Check out the short video I made below. It shows you that even on a MUTED channel (!) the Spider affects the signal on playback! A rather super nasty bug, right?

You can download the Spider bug file HERE! And reproduce it as follows:

  • open the Reason song
  • press play
  • listen to the sound
  • now connect Spider Output 2 Left to Line Mixer 1 Channel 2 Left input
  • connect Spider Output 2 Right 1 to Line Mixer 1 Channel 2 Right input

The solution

However the solution is very simple and free: download the
Shelob Audio Bypass Splitter and the Mordred Audio Bypass Merger. Those Rack Extensions by Jiggery-Pokery are like the Spiders on steroids. So from now on I will be using these in all my Combinators and songs.

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4 Responses to Here’s why I no longer use the Spider Audio device in Reason

  1. challism July 25, 2017 at 4:50 pm #

    Wow, that is REALLY (I can’t stress that word enough) DISAPPOINTING (also, can’t stress that word enough) that Props know about it and have done NOTHING!! Really? This is a pretty basic and important function, and to have it messing up like this. WTF, for real! I have reported bugs in some of the different Prop REs, and they have also done NOTHING about those. But those are REs, which are optional, and aren’t as crucial to the heart of the DAW as an audio splitter is. SMDH, this is messed up.

  2. Patrick July 29, 2017 at 11:06 am #

    I assume the problem only arises if you do special patching like loopbacks in the signal flow. I experienced strange behaviour of the Spider Audio when doing experimental patching. However, when I use it to split audio in a “straight forward signal flow way” it seems to behave as intended, doesn’t it? I hope so – otherwise I’d have to rework many templates and Combinators.

    • Marco Raaphorst July 29, 2017 at 11:52 am #

      Yes, this is a rare case. I am using the Spider in many Combinators for many years. Now the bug suddenly showed up. It is nasty though.

  3. drno October 11, 2017 at 5:18 am #

    DId they fix this in Reason 10. Probably not. Hell I’d be happy with proper multicore support. Doubt they will get to something like this anytime soon.

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