Novation please consider doing Rack Extensions for Reason!

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Rockman

Have you ever heard of the Rockman? I was 14 years old at the time, playing guitar. I didn’t buy it although I had a friend who did. It sounded super noisy, super distorted and compressed. When you would plug in an electric banjo I think it would still give you that famous guitar sound of the band Boston. That’s because the creator of the Rockman was Thomas Scholz who was also the guitar player of that band . Although it was super limited all respect goes to Thomas for invented this new way to record guitar.

Peavey Pro-Fex & Zoom multi effects units

I bought a Peavey Pro-Fex (still have it in a 19″ unit) a couple of years later based on a very positive review I read in Dutch magazine MusicMaker. According to the review the overdrive sounded very “tubelike”. Well it did not. What I heard was these strange overtones which became a real problem when playing high notes and bending them. At the time I didn’t know what was causing it. Now I know: some seriously digital aliasing artefacts.

I also bought one of the first Zoom multi effect units with an amp simulator included which totally sucked. It had this over compressed tone which just fucked up the character of the guitar. Didn’t matter what you plugged into it, it all sounded the same.

Palmer Speaker Simulator

Only when I bought a Palmer PDI-03 Speaker Simulator my life changed. I used it with Fender, Koch, Vox and Marshall amps, and it sounded great. Okay, it lacks a little air but it’s super dynamic and a superb way to record your amp without blowing your ears. I also used it live and any engineer I’ve met loved it. It uses an analog passive system and it’s still super useful so I haven’t sold that one.

Novation Nio

I have tried and used many software simulators. For example the Line6 GuitarPort which I still have and I have tried Native Instruments Guitar Rig on a couple of occasions. But somehow the software that came with the small Novation Nio USB (version 1!) interface I like the most. I am using it for years and years. Novation stopped making those units. Mine is half broken, the 2nd headphone amp only plays the left channel and the pre-amp is lacking power (I need to turn the volume almost all the way up to get an okay input signal when using external microphones). But the included guitar simulator software is great. And since the interface has a DSP-processor on the unit you can record the signal without any latency.

Novation stopped making audio interfaces. But why did they also stop making this kind of software? It’s superb! And in my opinion it would be great if they would create a couple of Rack Extensions for Reason out of these (old) Novation Nio rack devices. They even look a bit like Reason devices too:

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My Fender Voodoo Strat (action way too high, strings way too old, with way too much dust on the body) through the V-AC (Vox AC15/30 simulation) and nothing else, so direct input from the unit, it sounds like this:

Nothing in Reason can produce these tones. The Line6 device, although useful, is using way too much compression for creating it tone. And the new Rack Extension for guitar players like you and me, the Kuassa Amplifikation Vermilion, although sounding nice and flexible (hope to do an in-depth review for this unit soon), is not capable of producing these tones either. So please Novation, consider doing these Rack Extensions for Reason!

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8 Responses to Novation please consider doing Rack Extensions for Reason!

  1. john August 24, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

    as much as I dislike amp sims..I have gotten some great results with the Amplitube Fender series. just that one though..the Ampeg and Marshall sims are like the rest..NOT GOOD. Line 6 in Reason is useless. I will dig around for the Novation stuff..I think I have it on a hd..somewhere…

    • Marco Raaphorst August 24, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

      That Vermilion RE is great. Brown sounding, but nice.

      I love being able to do weird stuff in Reason using these kinds of naughty sounding devices. Pulveriser is a hero as well. We can build these crazy modular things. At the same time when playing live I still want an amp and some pedals (haven’t used anything more that Tubescreamer, Vox Wah and a switch for my Vox AC15 tremelo and reverb). A laptop or even an iPad feels like bringing Louis Vuitton on stage.

  2. john August 24, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    I like the pulverizer and alligator too…you tried using the alligator on riddim guitar parts? very nice if you hit the right riff.

  3. MB Francis July 18, 2016 at 8:35 pm #

    I’m still bummed by the limitations of Reason for certain guitar tones, or rather, how much harder it is to dial in good sounds. I’ve been using (free) Guitar Rig for some stuff, it has some great presets, much better amps, and I’m literally writing the part and then recording directly into reason playing to an external click (so only the guitar part records). Works great actually…until 30 minutes runs out and I have to restart GR ha.

    • Marco Raaphorst July 18, 2016 at 10:15 pm #

      I am mixing all the amps available in Reason and my own Rockmen in all sorts of combinations. Using the Amp of Softube and combine it with the cab of Vermillion and things like that. Or mixing Amp with Bass Amp.

      What kind of tones in Guitar Rig you do think are better? I don’t like the high end of the Marshall model in Guitar Rig.

      I am also trying to get better tones using Ableton Live. It has Softube Amps but those are very badly modelled. Never understood why it was done so badly.

  4. John Pazdan July 18, 2016 at 10:39 pm #

    Zombie thread not dead! Agreed on the softube amps in Live. It’s “almost” like somebody who didn’t play guitar made them. I still like the Amplitube Fenders. and the Hendrix collection..the silvertone is a killer. Also, have you noticed the engineers at Korg, starting over 10 years ago, have made REALLY good emulations of Marshall and Vox? You can pick up these little fx boxes for nothing..$25 or so..and you might be knocked out. Use some fx from Reason or Live, but the amps are really solid. That’s a good combo.

    • Marco Raaphorst July 18, 2016 at 11:39 pm #

      For some live stuff I am currently using the http://www.ehx.com/products/ehx_tortion
      It’s a nice amp sim using a XLR output. High end is a little too warm, but other than that it’s great. Don’t need to bring an amp to those gigs 🙂 Here’s me using it:

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